Time for a Rational Assessment
March 4th, 2008 | by The Prowler |I honestly feel bad for recruits that come to the University of Pittsburgh to play either football or basketball. I lived in Pittsburgh for the first 26 years of my life (and can’t wait to come back because it is the greatest city on earth) before spending the last four years in Kansas. I can honestly say that Pittsburgh has the most ungrateful fans I have ever seen. It is really sad. Unless you win a championship, people in Pittsburgh aren’t happy. Even in a potential championship year, many find reasons to complain. Since the 1970s, Pittsburgh has exactly one title in a sport that counts and it was a win in Super Bowl 40. I know the Penguins won a few Stanley Cups in 1991 and 1992, but hockey sucks, so who cares.
Given that this city has one championship in 30 years, you would think the fans would be used to not winning them. Pittsburgh calls itself the City of Champions and won’t settle for anything less. They tried to run Bill Cowher out of town for years. When he finally won the Super Bowl, he stuck around for one more year then “retired” (read got sick of being a villain given the good he did for Pittsburgh Sports) everyone was stunned. Mike Tomlin came in as a rookie coach and did a reasonable job and after one season the calls for his head have already started.
It isn’t just the fans that are hard on our sports teams. Our media, especially the radio sports programs and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette sports columnists, spend far more time talking about the deficiencies of our teams, players, and coaches than celebrating how good we have it. The perfect example being that Ron Cook and Bob Smizik both voted AGAINST Larry Fitzgerald for the Heisman Trophy and defended themselves as though they were above being homers. YOU ARE PITTSBURGH SPORTS COLUMNISTS!!!! YOUR JOBS ARE SPECIFICALLY TO BE HOMERS. THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE PAID FOR.
Walt Harris took our football program from laughing stock of the country to perennial bowl team, including putting players in the NFL and making a BCS bowl. I don’t think Walt was ever going to make Pitt a national championship contender; but he did so much for Pitt football. He set the bar to where we expected something from the team, then blamed him for not exceeding those expectations. So what did we do? We ran him out of town and haven’t had a winning season or bowl appearance since. While Walt may not have made us a true national power, he recruited studs that gave fans a reason to care every game. Do names like Larry Fitzgerald and Antonio Bryant ring a bell?
The latest in the saga of “Oh My God ____ (insert Pittsburgh team) Sucks and ____ (insert coach’s name) Needs to be Fired” mania revolves around Pitt basketball and Jamie Dixon. I don’t want this to come off the wrong way, because I do know that there is a significant number of fans in Pittsburgh that support all of our teams no matter what. You guys aren’t who I am talking about. But any of you who do support Pittsburgh teams know exactly who I am talking about, because you have probably been annoyed by them to.
So the current argument out there is that Jamie Dixon needs fired because he can’t recruit, he can’t coach, he calls too many time outs, he knows nothing about defense, and he ran over your dog. Let me say it here now: Jamie Dixon is a great coach who has accomplished great things and our program will collapse if he leaves. For those of you that are trying to run him off, you are going to ruin it for the rest of us if he goes. Ten years ago, no one gave a crap about Pitt basketball. The only question was how many players would be arrested on the next road trip. No one even contemplated NCAA tournament bids. Dixon is about to lead Pitt to its seventh straight NCAA tournament. Coming into this season, all the media said that this was going to be a down year because of all the players they lost after last year. Many analysts even suggested at the beginning of the season that they may not make the NCAA tournament. Dixon isn’t the kind of coach who lets his players believe negative hype. He convinces them they can win, and they buy into it. Our own media said that Pitt was going to lose to Duke. Dixon convinced that team that they could win and they gutted it out to a big time win. Everyone (including me) said Pitt was completely done whenever Mike Cook and Levance Fields went down in back to back games. The Panthers responded by handily beating an excellent Georgetown team.
The problem isn’t that Dixon can’t recruit or coach or whatever else. The problem is that this team did so well when we all left them for dead that we all forgot just how much they lost this season. People act like talking about the injuries is getting old, but it has been a season long FACT. If a meteor hit your house and killed your family; a month later it would still be true that a meteor hit your house and killed your family. Just because it happened a whole month ago doesn’t mean it isn’t true now. Pitt had 4 players get injured to the point where they couldn’t play anymore, only one (Fields) of which has been able to come back this year. Back when Fields got injured we were aware that Ramon had a shoulder injury. That isn’t something that just came out yesterday. It has been true all season. It sounds like Gilbert Brown and DeJuan Blair may need surgery in the off season. We all watched Keith Benjamin hurt a finger on his shooting hand. Sam Young is the only starter without a significant injury. Between the injuries themselves taking a physical toll, and the fact that Pitt couldn’t field a 5v5 practice because they didn’t have 10 bodies, it isn’t surprising that they have fallen off on defense and rebounding. We have all heard that you play how you practice. This team has had to practice half speed with no contact. Surprisingly enough, that is also how they have played.
To add insult to injury, Sam Young has been the most consistent player for Pitt this season and the fans are so hard on him that you would think he was averaging 3 points a game. Take away Sam Young, this isn’t a tournament team this year.
We know about the injuries. We know the adversity this team has faced. We all left them for dead after the Dayton game (Fields’ injury) but this team gutted it out and came up with some big wins. They also had some heartbreaking losses that they probably would have won by 10 points if they had a full roster. What thanks do we give them for such heart and effort? We talk about how much they suck. We say that the coach needs fired. We question the caliber of recruits. Basically, we send the message to all the big names out there that might want to come here, “Don’t come to Pitt unless you want us to turn on you like rabid dogs.” Why do you think a guy like Terrelle Prior won’t come here? He is from Pittsburgh. He knows that if Pitt isn’t competing for a national championship then he will be treated like total garbage. If he goes to Ohio State, not only will he be a god whether they win or lose; he will also be on a team that WILL compete for a national championship. We, the fans, are one of the biggest reasons that big recruits shouldn’t come to Pitt. We treat 18 year old men like they just failed to stop a nuclear explosion just because they have a rough season. This is especially sad when this team has overachieved based on pre-season expectations and realistic views based on the adversity they have faced.
After the Duke game, we saw what looked like it could have been a final four team. What team in the country could face the issues that Pitt has faced this year and be a final four team? None, including this team. We have to adjust what we see as a successful season based on what this team has faced. For me, beating Duke made it a successful season. Making the NCAA tournament makes it a successful season. If they make the Sweet 16 ( a likely long shot barring the perfect matchups) I will treat this season like a final four season given what the team has endured.
For those that want to blame Dixon for not being able to recruit good talent as being the reason they are struggling right now (as opposed to being decimated by injuries), how come Dixon is doing significantly better than Jim Boeheim at Syracuse and he has all these 5 star recruits? Sure, Syracuse has injuries too; but they also have studs who should be able to compensate (if in fact you can overcome such injuries as the naysayers seem to think you can) for the injuries. However it happens to be the piss poor coach Jamie Dixon and his awful 1 star recruits that have come through in the face of adversity. I would like to think that has a lot to do with the coaching of Dixon. Even Bill Cowher didn’t do this good of a job the year after he won the Super Bowl and he was faced with a lengthy injury list (and he was playing with a Super Bowl defending team).
I know this is a long post, but it is important to me that we give some credit to our sports teams for what they do, especially the college athletes who are teenagers and aren’t being paid for what they do. Part of the problem is being spoiled because we have too many sports teams to root for in Pittsburgh. So if one isn’t doing well, cast them off for another. Out here in Kansas, everyone in the state bleeds either blue and red (KU) or purple (K State) whether they are winning or losing. While WVU fans are often way over the top, they do stand by their teams even in bad seasons. But these places have nothing else, just their schools. Until Walt Harris came in the 1990s most people in Pittsburgh didn’t care about anything Pitt did. Now that the city has some more good teams, we spend less time celebrating that they give us something to cheer for look at it like, “Hey, two more teams (basketball and football) to run through the mud.”
Frankly, it is embarrassing. I know that there are many, many true fans out there. I just hope that Jamie Dixon realizes that because it would be a tragedy if he left. I also hope the players know it. After all, we have two seniors playing with injuries, one of whom will need surgery after the season, and a third senior who lost the entire season to a blown knee. These guys have endured a lot, and for what? They aren’t getting paid. Aside from Mike Cook, who may play overseas, none of them are going to be pro athletes. No, my friends, they are enduring this and leaving their hearts on the court for you, the fans. It is time to show some appreciation for that.
Hail to Pitt!!
13 Responses to “Time for a Rational Assessment”
By Pitt84 on Mar 4, 2008 | Reply
I agree with you. You simply cannot overlook the injuries and the fact that this is now the fourth season this year for the team. I cannot imagine how difficult it is to get a team settled on what you want them to do with so many changes throughout the year.
A lot of people became unrealistic with the Georgetown win. This is a very good team with a Coach I hope we never lose.
By The Prowler on Mar 4, 2008 | Reply
If this post wasn’t so long, I would have added how the example of how Pirates fans scapegoated Jim Leyland and ran him out of town. We all know what has followed. 2 worlds series trips and 1 win for Leyland, and not even a single .500 season for the Buccos since he left. And Leyland turned around Detroit, one of the worst teams in the league, and took them to the world series in his first year. Boy what he would do for Pittsburgh. But we couldn’t wait to get rid of him.
By J.D. on Mar 5, 2008 | Reply
Please, please fire Jamie Dixon
Sincerely,
15 other Big East teams
By colt_convert on Mar 5, 2008 | Reply
Prowler, the Panthers are paying the price for success. I’m not saying it’s right, it’s just what seems to happen to big-time programs that have had successful runs. The Pitt basketball program is a perennial NCAA tourney invite, they’re not a flash-in-the-pan, where the stars all align, suddenly get hot team like a George Mason. They have an infrastructure for a repeatable, successful program year in, year out.
Unfortunately, when that program doesn’t live up to everyone’s standards (realistic or not), fans get a little restless. Out here in Indiana, we hear every year about how bad the IU season is, and how they should fire the coach, and try to get Bob Knight back out here. I don’t need to point out the Kelvin Sampson fiasco, or how they ran Mike Davis out, even after he took them to the title game.
By Adrienne on Mar 5, 2008 | Reply
This is absolutely ridiculous…Pittsburgh’s fans aren’t nearly as depressed or scathing because their teams are consistently good and they win A LOT. Do yourself a favor and stream some Philadelphia sports radio online, then you’ll see how fans in a city whose teams are perennial losers really react. You’ll see that it’s about 100 times more intense than the belly-aching coming out of Pittsburgh right now.
By The Prowler on Mar 5, 2008 | Reply
This is absolutely ridiculous? What is, the fact that Pittsburgh has a really good sports situation and yet we complain like we are the worst at every sport? I think Adrienne’s comments make my point even though it sounds like she(?) was trying to argue against it. My whole point is that we have it good but that we are spoiled fans who can’t accept being good. If we aren’t the BEST, we don’t want to bother. And being the best is only measured by post-season success. Things like continuity (7 straight NCAA bids), win percentage (76% under Jamie Dixon), conference record (Dixon holds the best conference win % in BE history), or class of organization (the Steelers are on of the classiest organizations in all of sports and Dixon runs a squeaky clean program). These things all count as well. We have it good, but when a team suffers injury and adversity, our fans immediately question every coaching decision made. My biggest concern is that with that kind of fan base, we aren’t going to keep a Jamie Dixon for 35 years. He will eventually tire of it and leave.
I know Philly fans suck, but that has no bearing on this site or this city and it isn’t a problem that I care about since I am not from Philly. No matter how good or bad Philly fans are, and whether they have a better “claim” to the complaining, I will continue to make the argument that Pittsburgh fans should appreciate how good they have it.
Colt, I agree with you that when a coach builds in the expectations, those same expectations become a burden. What is frustrating to me is that it happens in Pittsburgh in such a short time. Pitt’s hoops haven’t even been a sound program for a decade yet but you hear people talking like we have won 4 national championships and then fallen off in recent years. This is a sound program that, as you say, has a firm foundation for future success. What fans really need to get perspective on is that this is still a program on the rise. We haven’t peaked, we aren’t declining. We are still making a name for ourselves with things like tourney appearances and wins against high profile teams that will only further legitimize this program and help it to get even better recruits in the future. We are one elite 8/final four appearance away from landing some 5 star recruits (in my opinion).
By Pitt84 on Mar 5, 2008 | Reply
YO ADRIENNE!!!!!!
By The Prowler on Mar 5, 2008 | Reply
lol
By Reed on Mar 6, 2008 | Reply
Prowler - That’s some pretty strong opinions you have of PITT fans. But, I do think that it’s colored by the fact that the ‘fans’ who ‘Live Blog’ during games, or comment on the Internet right afterward are not typical fans. They are a segment of the whole, and are not exactly rational or shy in vocalizing their emotions - most likely fueled by booze - as they watch or listen to the games. I read it all the time on the live blogs during both PITT FB and BB games.
In the case of the football program - some fans have been calling for DW’s head since his opening game loss to ND in 2005, and it continues after each subsequent loss. By by mid-week you’ll find the more - I’ll go ahead and say it - mature fans begin to post their thoughts and things start coming back to reality.
But, IMO the root of the problem - specifically in football - is that PITT fans have a skewed view of what exactly PITT football is, and has been, over its history. We are really a mid-level program that has had brief (ten years from 1976-1985 or so ) success on the national stage. Somehow PITT fans take that and assume we have the birthright to be ranked in the Top Ten every year. It’ll probably never happen, although we might bounce up there again sometime soon.
Really, The University of Pittsburgh never was, and will probably never be, a football first institution - it just isn’t that important to the administration, Board of Trustees and the community at large. A case in point was Harris’ firing (and he was fired). The administration weighed all the aspects of Harris’ tenure and decided that, regardless of his winning record or appearance in bowl games, it wasn’t in the best interests of PITT to retain him as one of the most nationally recognized faces of our school. PITT fans have a hard time separating the missions of the school and the desire to boast about a winning football program, so they criticize PITT for that move. I, personally, applaud it.
I wouldn’t feel sorry for any recruit that attends PITT. They know what they are getting into, and they know what benefits will be afforded them for their diligence to the deal they stuck to come here. As to the rabid fans who call for the coaches head’s after each loss or disappointment - well, had they a true desire to see things change they would vote with their pocketbook - but that cost is so much more then typing out their thoughts on the Internet.
By The Prowler on Mar 6, 2008 | Reply
Reed, thanks for your thoughts. I know that the majority of fans are more mature and I am not coming down on them. I assume they share in my frustration, and the hope as I wrote this article was that I was giving voice to the other fans who are indeed frustrated with the constant naysayers. I agree that Pitt was never a powerhouse in football. You have to go back to the 80s to even get a good basketball team prior to the current regime But even now in basketball people act like we are at a low point when we are at the highest point in the history of the program. And the media doesn’t help. I am glad I don’t live in Pittsburgh anymore because I couldn’t take Mark Madden’s constant tearing down of everything Pitt. And the columnists for the newspapers rarely had anything nice to say either. But you are right that there are more people on blogs and what not that just want to tear the team down. I have a lot of die hard Pitt fan friends and family. We are willing to be objective about the team’s shortcomings without acting like there is some major flaw such as hideously poor talent or coaching. Sometimes there is a bad player. Sometimes the coach does the wrong thing. But a sustained era of success shouldn’t be pushed away when we are generally used to being the doormat in both football and basketball.
I do hope that those of you that really are fans who (while we know Pitt has struggles they need to deal with) love Pitt understand that my words were geared towards those who do nothing but tear down. We as Pitt fans haven’t had this much to cheer about in well over 20 years (and I am only 30 so I missed most of what there was to cheer about). I don’t want some vocal minority of naysayers ruining the good life we have right now.
By markpinNJ on Mar 12, 2008 | Reply
It amazes me that Pitt rarely sells out a football game. The true national powers sellout each game regardless of the opponent - even in the70s and 80s - Pitt Stadium was rarely sold out. You can’t fault the coach or the schedule - it’s the fair weather fans fault. The only go when the team is winning. As far as this season’s b-ball team - how many top teams would stay competitive after loosing two key starteres - not many. Granted the team un-achieved, this may be due to having a young, inexperienced team…be thankful that Pitt has a competive team - you could be a Penn State fan who hasn’t had a good b-ball team in a long time. Their football tea, does sell out every game though!
By The Prowler on Mar 12, 2008 | Reply
Mark, good comment and thoughts. You are right about attendance at football games being pathetic, but I will add that having an NFL team in town that is always at the top doesn’t help. People sadly feel like they don’t need Pitt football because of the Steelers. Yet the same people, when Pitt is doing well will act like they have always cared. And again, those same fans, if Pitt has a bad season after doing well will immediately abandon the team again. All of this I see as being part of the downfall of Pitt being in the city and not having a closed campus. Even students can spend 4 years at the school without feeling tied to the community because you can commute there or go off campus for any number of activities. It helps breed a lack of commitment.
By Reed on Mar 15, 2008 | Reply
“Even students can spend 4 years at the school without feeling tied to the community because you can commute there or go off campus for any number of activities. It helps breed a lack of commitment.”
…. Or, on the other hand, it helps develop well-rounded graduates who understand there is more in life then sports.
Look, sports are wonderful. They hold a large spot in our lives as a diversion from the ‘real-life’ situations we face everyday. But, I’ll take the fans that understand their relative importance and put the proper amount of time and energy into their following their favorite team over the fans who carry boatloads of angst every time PITT (or the Steelers, Pirates, Penguins etc…) loses a game.
It’s the entities that put an undue amount of importance on winning that end up in trouble and as a PITT fan I have to think one of the reasons we aren’t reading about recruiting, cheating or off the field scandals is because the Administration has properly placed PITT athletics where it belongs - as a integral, but not vital, part of the University’s missions.